Curse

Ruscour · Mar 30, 2010, 10:23 AM // 10:23

Hi. A friend of mine recently picked up Nightfall, and is enjoying the game so far. I came up with this build for general end-game PvE, and I really wanted to see what you think of it. She plays a Warrior, and I play a Paragon.

You can find the build at http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/User:RustyTheMesmer/Sandbox, it's the first time I've designed a build like this, I usually just run Sabway. I've tried to copy the "2-man Physical Support" build and play around the deficiencies of only having Nightfall, I think I've done a decent job but I'd love some input from someone who actually does end-game PvE, as I've always been more into the PvP side of things.

Any suggestions would be very welcome, thanks in advance :-)

upier · Mar 30, 2010, 10:42 AM // 10:42

Ruscour · Mar 30, 2010, 11:10 AM // 11:10

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Originally Posted by upier

Conjure Frost doesn't work with Orders.
I'd also get rid of Castigation and Signet of Lost Souls because Soul Reaping should provide the necro with enough energy, especially since you only have one guy to keep Strength of Honour on. Which means you can throw in Barbs, MoP or more support skills on him.
Drain Enchantment instead of Leech Signet has always been my personal preference.
And with two healers AND prots on the necro AND an Imba - I'd certainly get rid of the Motigon and instead run more damage.
I'd also dump Jagged Bones and go with a support elite such as Emphatic Removal.

Other than that - there really are no glaring issues so even if you don't change much, you should be perfectly fine.
Change Conjure though.

Changed it up a little. Cheesed Conjure, replaced with res for an oopsie situation. Barbs and MoP thrown up, both were actually kinda obvious to put in there. Drain Enchantment got thrown in there too, probably more useful.

I rather like Jagged Bones, but it'd be good to replace if I dropped the motigon, glancing at the build there isn't a huge load of damage output. I dunno what I'd replace the motigon with though, as her skills are limited, I'd be more inclined to ditch the imbagon and I'd play my dagger spammer build instead.

Pugs Not Drugs · Mar 30, 2010, 11:36 PM // 23:36

its definitely worth dropping the rez or something on the warrior for another copy of sy so the ai doesnt rape the paragon, and you have something the keep the party up if the para is shut down/dies.

Ruscour · Mar 31, 2010, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Originally Posted by Pugs Not Drugs

its definitely worth dropping the rez or something on the warrior for another copy of sy so the ai doesnt rape the paragon, and you have something the keep the party up if the para is shut down/dies.

SY is from Factions.

Sethellington · Mar 31, 2010, 02:41 PM // 14:41

I'd change the D/N for E/N cos better. Add curses to the E/N.

Put Strength of Honour on your SoS rit.

This means that you don't need the SS, or atleast that you can play around with skills some more.

Also, there's a reason you're only ever allowed 3 PvE skills - cos they're too good. Take more. Take out SS Rebirth Sig - you shouldn't take a res. In fact, you shouldn't ever really need to res if you're running a 2/6 build effectively. Take Asuran Scan or something similar

upier · Mar 31, 2010, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Sethellington · Mar 31, 2010, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by upier

You (we) keep forgetting that one player (the warrior) has NIGHTFALL ONLY. That's why he can't run SY, nor AS.

(He might actually not be able to run some of the things I suggested because I missed that too.)
Although maybe ranger secondary for Never Rampage Alone with a pet?
Something in the lines of:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build%3AW/R_NRA_Rage_War
but without SY of course.
Or a modification of it if you'd want to keep the sword.

You're right, I did miss that. I thought he said his friend only had NF and I overlooked SY!

Well that's true. However, that being the case it means he's only going to play NF, none of which is challenging until you get to DoA, and these builds don't stand a chance there!

Honestly mate, I'd suggest buying the other 3. I realise that's not the topic here, but you can get them all for about £15 I saw recently. Don't let the whole 'GW2 is coming out soon!' put you off. That'll be a while yet and I think GW2 will be most like GW:EN so it'll prepare you. Besides which, you've never really played Guild Wars until you've played through Tyria